The United States or Zionism - Who’s In Charge?

The United States or Zionism - Who’s In Charge?

August 29, 2025

American Exception

Lawrence Wilkerson and Gary Vogler join us to discuss and answer the question: Who controls US foreign policy in Western Asia, the U.S. Empire or Israel/Zionism?

Lawrence Wilkerson is a retired U.S. Army Colonel and former chief of staff to U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell. Gary Vogler is a retired U.S. oil executive and served in Iraq as the senior oil advisor to General Jay Gardner and Paul Bremer after the 2003 Iraq War.

Special thanks to:

• Dana Chavarria, production
• Casey Moore, graphics
• Michelle Boley, animated intro
• Mock Orange, music

Vogler is also the author of the very important book, 'Israel, Winner of the 2003 Iraq Oil War: Undue Influence, Deceptions, and the Neocon Energy Agenda':
https://libertarianinstitute.org/books/israel-winner-of-the-2003-iraq-oil-war/

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