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“Something Non-Human Has Been Here A Long Time” | Dr. Garry Nolan | EP 563

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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson interviews Stanford professor and prolific biotech entrepreneur Dr. Garry Nolan, covering the cutting-edge of cancer research and atomic-level imaging as well as his work with the U.S. government on anomalous health effects linked to unidentified aerial phenomena (UAPs). Nolan explains how his scientific curiosity—and integrity—led him from debunking the infamous Atacama “alien” mummy to analyzing bizarre materials and biological effects tied to UAP encounters. Artificial intelligence, intuition, consciousness, and the blurry line between science fiction and scientific frontier, culminate in Nolan’s provisional belief: “something non-human has been here a long time.”

This episode was filmed on July 7th, 2025

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(0:00) Coming up
(1:00) Dr. Nolan’s background, scientific breakthroughs are more about intuition than you would expect
(21:16) How AI is reshaping the scientific process
(27:30) Where intuition originates in the brain, how make decisions with sparse data
(37:37) How Dr. Nolan moved to the forefront of UAPs, debunking the “Atacama Mummy” in Chile
(40:47) The CIA showed up unannounced, studying the effects of high intensity microwave weapons
(51:22) Real reports of aerial phenomena and adverse effects on military personel
(58:36) Jacques Vallée—UFOlogy and the study of extra-terrestrial metal alloys
(1:06:04) The U.S. government and intelligence community acknowledges UAPs as a legitimate concern
(1:14:45) The central phenomena that the military is observing, the New Jersey drone incident
(1:22:21) Skywatcher—we can produce a signal that attracts UAPs