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Jordan Peterson—psychopaths are taking over the right: It isn’t ideological—it’s psychological.
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He told Joe Rogan the danger isn’t ideological—it’s psychological.
“I think virtualization has enabled the psychopaths,” Peterson said.
“That’s a terrible thing, because psychopathic types are always the death of everything. I’m seeing this come up on the right now.”
He’s building a new theory of political psychopathology. And it explains what we’re all starting to see.
“I’ve been working on a new theory of political psychopathology, and I like it quite a lot.”
Rogan asked:
“Is this where the term ‘the woke right’ comes in?”
Peterson replied:
“Yes, well, Lindsay is pointing at that, but he hasn’t got the diagnosis exactly right. It isn’t ‘woke’—that’s not the issue. It’s not exactly what we’re talking about.”
Rogan clarified:
“The term ‘woke’ just helps you clarify in your head: ‘Oh, it’s like that.’ Like Antifa.”
“Exactly,” Peterson said.
But he made it clear: the real problem isn’t the ideas—it’s the people behind them.
“The argument is predicated on the claim that the ideas are the problem—like the woke ideas, whether on the right or the left. But that’s not the problem.”
Then he dropped the psychological nuke:
“The problem is that 4–5% of the population is cluster B—using DSM-5 terms: histrionic, narcissistic, antisocial, psychopathic. They have dark tetrad traits: Machiavellian, sadistic. That’s about 4%. How do these people maneuver?”
“They go to where the power is, adopt those ideas, and put themselves at the forefront. But the ideas are completely irrelevant.”
And here’s the gut punch:
“All they’re doing is playing the role of the Pharisees—the modern version—using God’s name in vain as they proclaim moral virtue.”
“Doesn’t matter if it’s right or left, Christian, Jewish, or Islamic. They invade the idea space and use those ideas as false weapons to advance their narcissistic advantage.”
The left got hit first. Now it’s the right’s turn.
“The right is going to face this more and more, particularly because the left had to face it when they were in power,” Peterson said.
“So how do you identify the psychopathic parasites—4% of the population—clothed in your clothing, waving your flags, but only in it for narcissistic benefit?”
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